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Transformative Learning Experiences with Kyle Wagner is a show created for DISRUPTORS and INNOVATIVE EDUCATORS looking to create more socially, globally, emotionally aware citizens and student-centered classrooms through transformative project- based learning experiences. Through 1:1 interviews, Kyle dissects learning experiences from EDNOVATORS just like you, and unpacks the simple strategies and structures that allowed them to happen. To date, over 1,000 classrooms have been transformed through 1,000 + learning experiences.


Nov 16, 2022

Imagine your most challenging students- The ones who can't sit still, blurt out, submit low- quality work, have difficulty working with others, and seem totally checked out suddenly self-managing, coming in voluntarily after class, submitting polished work, and leading teams.

That's what happened in several classrooms when they were transformed into canvases for student-run businesses. 

These forward thinking educators are making the magic happen with the support of an organisation called ‘Real World Scholars.’ And their ‘EdCorps’ model has garnished national attention. To date over 600 student businesses have been created, 600 + classrooms transformed, and more than 50,000 young lives forever changed. I sat down with founders John Cahalin and Elyse Burden to learn more about the model, and how we as learner-centered practitioners can use it to:

  • Make our classroom come alive
  • Tranform our students into real entrepreneurs and business 'co-founders'
  • Give our boring ‘standards’ a real world lens
  • Empower our traditionally disengaged learners
  • Help learners discover their passions, interests, and most importantly how to make a difference

Connect with John: Twitter (@JohnCahalin1) 

Connect with Elyse: Twitter (@LyzBurden), LinkedIn (

Learn more about Real World Scholars Success Stories: Wicked Soap Company: (, Articles: 'Non-Profit Brings Business to Life', Sugar Kids Beauty

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